nightbringer24:

mutantlexi:

pandacommander24a:

mutantlexi:

nightbringer24:

mutantlexi:

cryoverkiltmilk:

For anyone considering watching Goblin Slayer for it’s bright and colorful character designs, and its deconstruction of fantasy/rpg/tabletop gaming tropes, should know there is a LOT of byronic heroism and a lot of r*pe by the goblins.

This has been a PSA.

I’d like to point out that if they follow the manga, and are like me in finding r*pe as a plot device gross and rather lazy. You can easily skip the first episode, the scrub party being destroyed is the only time it happens.

I’ll be honest, I went into the manga angry and planning on reading it so I would be able to have info for when arguments would come up about it. Then, once past the first chapter (and episode of the anime by extension), it’s a really well done manga.

Compared to many other mangas and animes, the rape scenes are toned down a hell of a lot, even compared to the original manga. And I would agree that rape as a plot device is pretty lazy, but it serves as the best ‘go-to’ device to show that a person/group is a person/group that fully deserves to be exterminated.

But you have to admit: it makes the Goblin Slayer ripping and tearing the goblins apart so fucking cathartic.

Honestly, the mage’s death was enough for me to want every single gob to be wiped of the face of the planet.

The First Chapter was enough for me to NOPE the fuck out of Goblin Slayer, months later a friend mentioned how cool it was, I swallowed the bile rising and gave it another go. The First chapter is very much a Prove of concept; “This is what the manga will be about.” And every chapter after that is a hell of a lot better and both the sexual violence and BAD STUFF is tone down or implied, and its one of the best fantasy mangas I have read, but honestly that first Chapter, WOOF.

Yeah, I’m hav ing to revoke my previous comments. I made it to chapter 13 before tapping out.

Little too much sexual violence

I think that chapter 13 is the end of that since there’s a lot more bigger enemies for Goblin Slayer to fight, so it goes into proper Rip and Tear country. I think. I’m re-reading it from the start because I’ve forgotten most of the plot (happens with every manga).

Gotcha, I may pick it up gain later, I’mjust kinda still feeling off at the moment

pandacommander24a:

mutantlexi:

nightbringer24:

mutantlexi:

cryoverkiltmilk:

For anyone considering watching Goblin Slayer for it’s bright and colorful character designs, and its deconstruction of fantasy/rpg/tabletop gaming tropes, should know there is a LOT of byronic heroism and a lot of r*pe by the goblins.

This has been a PSA.

I’d like to point out that if they follow the manga, and are like me in finding r*pe as a plot device gross and rather lazy. You can easily skip the first episode, the scrub party being destroyed is the only time it happens.

I’ll be honest, I went into the manga angry and planning on reading it so I would be able to have info for when arguments would come up about it. Then, once past the first chapter (and episode of the anime by extension), it’s a really well done manga.

Compared to many other mangas and animes, the rape scenes are toned down a hell of a lot, even compared to the original manga. And I would agree that rape as a plot device is pretty lazy, but it serves as the best ‘go-to’ device to show that a person/group is a person/group that fully deserves to be exterminated.

But you have to admit: it makes the Goblin Slayer ripping and tearing the goblins apart so fucking cathartic.

Honestly, the mage’s death was enough for me to want every single gob to be wiped of the face of the planet.

The First Chapter was enough for me to NOPE the fuck out of Goblin Slayer, months later a friend mentioned how cool it was, I swallowed the bile rising and gave it another go. The First chapter is very much a Prove of concept; “This is what the manga will be about.” And every chapter after that is a hell of a lot better and both the sexual violence and BAD STUFF is tone down or implied, and its one of the best fantasy mangas I have read, but honestly that first Chapter, WOOF.

Yeah, I’m hav ing to revoke my previous comments. I made it to chapter 13 before tapping out.

Little too much sexual violence

krishnath:

se0ctopus:

Fallacies for Dummies

Important information.

TL;DR: If you disagree with someones opinion, either say you disagree with that statement *respectfully*, or provide credible evidence that proves it wrong. Anything else, and you’re acting like a dick. And incidentally, a two-thousand year+ religious text is not credible evidence.

I kinda have problems with using Appeal to Authority. That’s the point of moving education and knowledge forward, is to appeal to those with more knowledge than yourself. It just kind of feels anti-intellectual to me.

It why i had no problem with GS killing the baby goblins.

After getting around to reading more of it, I’ve kinda reached my limit.

As gross as it sounds, I’d be less squicked by it if the brutality of things like the “meat shields” were more than just women. I appreciate nude ladies in my fantasy, it’s just too gratuitously “women as sex slaves” for me, so I’m tapping out.

nightbringer24:

mutantlexi:

cryoverkiltmilk:

For anyone considering watching Goblin Slayer for it’s bright and colorful character designs, and its deconstruction of fantasy/rpg/tabletop gaming tropes, should know there is a LOT of byronic heroism and a lot of r*pe by the goblins.

This has been a PSA.

I’d like to point out that if they follow the manga, and are like me in finding r*pe as a plot device gross and rather lazy. You can easily skip the first episode, the scrub party being destroyed is the only time it happens.

I’ll be honest, I went into the manga angry and planning on reading it so I would be able to have info for when arguments would come up about it. Then, once past the first chapter (and episode of the anime by extension), it’s a really well done manga.

Compared to many other mangas and animes, the rape scenes are toned down a hell of a lot, even compared to the original manga. And I would agree that rape as a plot device is pretty lazy, but it serves as the best ‘go-to’ device to show that a person/group is a person/group that fully deserves to be exterminated.

But you have to admit: it makes the Goblin Slayer ripping and tearing the goblins apart so fucking cathartic.

Honestly, the mage’s death was enough for me to want every single gob to be wiped of the face of the planet.

cryoverkiltmilk:

For anyone considering watching Goblin Slayer for it’s bright and colorful character designs, and its deconstruction of fantasy/rpg/tabletop gaming tropes, should know there is a LOT of byronic heroism and a lot of r*pe by the goblins.

This has been a PSA.

I’d like to point out that if they follow the manga, and are like me in finding r*pe as a plot device gross and rather lazy. You can easily skip the first episode, the scrub party being destroyed is the only time it happens.

I’ll be honest, I went into the manga angry and planning on reading it so I would be able to have info for when arguments would come up about it. Then, once past the first chapter (and episode of the anime by extension), it’s a really well done manga.

kawacy:

Choose your fighter.

cheskamouse:

krishnath:

cheskamouse:

all-is-for-all:

kaasen:

all-is-for-all:

mistertb:

all-is-for-all:

mistertb:

all-is-for-all:

mistertb:

kropotkhristian:

all-is-for-all:

How are conservative Star Wars fans so goddamn fragile that they can’t even tolerate the SW universe now being only mostly male rather than 98% male? And they call left-wingers the oversensitive snowflakes, holy fucking shit. Apparently women being presented as main characters rather than on the sidelines is “PC CENSORSHIP ANTI-FREEZE PEACH CULTURE RUN AMOK”. And don’t even get me started again on the “Rey is Mary Sue” criticism – she’s no more a Mary Sue than Anakin “Jesus” Skywalker and Luke “author-insert farmboy destroys super weapon with one-in-a-million shot with the Force with no training” Skywalker, much less of one in fact.

Dudebro SW fans are weak. And I say this as a hardcore SW fan myself.

I’m telling you, everything has flipped. “SJWs” used to be roundly criticized for being supposedly mean and oversensitive to people who like [insert mainstream thing lots of people like]. Now, it is all prominently right-wingers who hate everything and boycott everything and are mean to people who literally just like things as mainstream as football or Star Wars. Hopefully people realize it was actually always fucking this way.

I think what they don’t like is that it seems the only people that can do anything in the new star wars are Women. I think that’s their criticism.

Let’s take a look at every named male character in the new films then:

Luke Skywalker: Looked upon as a demigod who reinspires the Resistance. Is a badass who astral projects himself across the galaxy.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Finn: First Order defector and Resistance hero. Skilled fighter with compelling character arc.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Poe: Commamder in the Resistance and “one hell of a pilot”. Is probably going to head the Resistance in Episode IX after Leia.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Han Solo: Seasoned smuggler who acts as a mentor figure to Rey and Finn. Helps destroy Starkiller Base.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Chewbacca: Furry copilot and friend to Han Solo who eventually teams up with Rey aboard the Millenium Falcon. Severely injures Kylo Ren, greatly aiding Rey in her dual with the latter.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Kylo Ren: Second-in-command (and eventually Supreme Leader) of the First Order, a huge imposing threat in the galaxy.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Hux: Military general of the First Order, The aforementioned huge and imposing threat in the galaxy.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Snoke: Supreme Leader of the First Order, the aforementioned huge and imposing threat in the galaxy.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

DJ: Radical centrist codebreaker who sides with whoever is winning. Betrays Finn and Rose.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Yoda: Wise Force ghost who comes back one last time to guide a disillusioned Luke.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

C-3PO and R2D2: Droid companions. The former aids Leia with translation/diplomatic matters and the latter holds the missing piece of the map to Luke.

Do something: Yes

Gender: Both are coded male

Lor San Tekka: Mysterious dude who gives Poe the map to Luke.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Unkar Plutt: Spaceship junkyard owner who tyrannically controls the food supply in the Jakku desert.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Rogue One crew: Relay Death Star plans to the Rebel Alliance, crucially securing their success against the Empire.

Does something: Yes

Gender: All are men aside from Jyn Erso; five out of the six

Galen Erso: Jyn Erso’s father and designer of the Death Star. Leaves a weakness in the design so that the Rebel Alliance can destroy it.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Saw Gerrera: Crucial figure in the Rebellion known for his intense/effective tactics against the Empire. Guardian to Jyn Erso.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Darth Vader: Terrifying Sith attack dog for the Empire and looming presence in Kylo Ren’s life. Carries as much demigod status as Luke. Kills lots of Rebels.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Director Krennic: Oversaw the construction and initial use of the Death Star. Had a big presence in the Empire as director of advanced weapons research.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

Governor Tarkin: Served the Empire as Grand Moff and Governor of the Outer Rim. Took over as director of the Death Star after it was fully operational.

Does something: Yes

Gender: Man

I might’ve missed one or two characters, but you get the point. I’m even being generous and not including the sheer number of background characters or those who still receive screen presence without any given name in the actual movie (the “traitor!” storm trooper, the competing smugglers in the rathtar scene, the pilots and ground infrantry at the battle on Scariff, etc.). (And I say “that’s being generous” because, let’s be honest, if those characters were female the anti-SJW types would absolutely count them in their “feminazi-takeover” conspiracy theories.) That’s still twenty-four male characters “doing anything” (important shit in the plots of their respective movies).

Using that same formula, you end up with only nine female characters: Rey, Leia, Holdo, Jyn Erso, Maz Kanata, Phasma, Mon Mothma, Rose, and Rose’s sister Paige. 24 to 9 – roughly one woman for every three men. Those nine women absolutely “do something” too, but don’t give me that objectively wrong bullshit about how they’re the only ones given important/interesting things to do. Honestly, it’s still pretty dang male-dominated, if those numbers mean anything to you. But they probably don’t, let’s be real here.

Star Wars is getting better at representation with baby steps, with overall representation still mostly with white dudes, and you anti types want to act like we’ve completely revolutionized 180 and went full matriarchy because there’s a couple of female lead characters in a fictional universe that has been historically 90~95% dudes. It’s laughable. I love Star Wars, but it still has a ways to go, and it’s absolutely ridiculous that this “only female characters are given important things to do” argument could hold any water whatsoever in discussion today.

you really need to look at wording I said NEW star wars

Force Awakens, Last Jedi, and Rogue One look an awful lot like NEW Star Wars to me.

But fine, sure, I think I know where you’re going with that statement. I’ll leave out all the original trilogy characters that leave an impact in the new trilogy and stick to JUST the new characters. Let’s see how that goes:

Males: Finn, Poe, Kylo Ren, Hux, Snoke, DJ, Lor San Tekka, Unkar Plutt, 5/6 of the Rogue One crew, Galen Erso, Saw Gerrera, Krennic

Total: 16

Females: Rey, Holdo, Jyn Erso, Maz Kanata, Phasma, Rose, Paige

Total: 7

Tbh your point isn’t really any better off. About 70% of the new characters are dudes, compared to the original ratio of about 73% of all major characters being dudes.

Was Tarkin and Krennic in the new star wars? I must have missed those guys

Rogue One is, in fact, a new Star Wars film, produced by the same PC snowflake cultural Marxist matriarchy that’s producing the new trilogy. I’m not sure how you can argue Rogue One out of this conversation, but I guess you’re trying to imply that it’s just the new trilogy that’s a matriarchy where only women can do important things?? Fine, let’s just do the new trilogy this time, leaving out (the new Star Wars film) Rogue One:

Males: Finn, Poe, Kylo Ren, Hux, Snoke, DJ, Lor San Tekka, Unkar Plutt

Total: 8

Females: Rey, Holdo, Maz Kanata, Phasma, Rose, Paige

Total: 6

You’re now at about 57% of the new, non-Rogue One characters being male. Congrats – you’ve pulled a Space Jam Michael Jordan-level reach and your argument is still completely unsupported by the actual numbers.

Your argument is that women receiving the most basic representation that men have taken for granted (white primary characters, people of color confined to secondary and tertiary roles) is somehow “women doing everything”, and it’s just wrong – demonstrably wrong. You’ve backed yourself into a corner because I know you absolutely want to count Jyn Erso as evidence of the new matriarchy, but in order to do that you’d also have to count Rogue One and the plethora of male characters with it.

The “Star Wars is becoming overrun with women” argument boils down to:

As Pop Culture Detective pointed out in his video “How The Last Jedi Defies Expectations About Male Heroes” the actual complaint isn’t about numbers or who is important, it’s about all three plot lines of the film sharing a message of “men should listen to and defer to women”. Luke has become a hermit and doesn’t want to be involved until Rey convinces him to take action, Poe defies the orders of two of his superior officers, both being women, and finds he was wrong to do so, while Rose has to stop Finn from fleeing the conflict, then stop him from making a pointless sacrifice once he joins the rebels. Men picked up on this and didn’t like that the male characters were made to look useless in order to make a point.

That’s such a bad argument though. For the sake of argument consistency of the inverse, you’d think that these dudes would care that the original Star Wars trilogy had only one consistent female character, and that in the final movie her agency is taken away and she’s sexualized through a slave costume. But no, the dudes who complain that new Star Wars is too “man-hating” are pretty much always the same dudes who sexualize enslaved Leia. It’d be man-hating if the new trilogy did what the original did to Leia to a man, but the original isn’t woman-hating? 🤔🤔🤔

And even if you followed their initial logic and applied it to other Star Wars movies, the argument falls apart. In the prequels, Anakin has to defer to Padme several times, and it’s shown how much of an idiot he is for not listening to her. And yet I don’t hear these fanboys calling the prequels “man-hating propaganda” at this point.

Besides, men make the majority of the major decisions in the new trilogy anyway. The most powerful people are Luke, Snoke, and Kylo, and they each have the biggest impact on the plots of VII and VIII aside from Rey. Especially in Luke’s case, he goes out with a bang on his own terms; he isn’t “deferring” to anyone else in his final act (other than the Resistance as a collective force).

It’s just double standards from the fanboys, plain and simple. They see Star Wars as a boys club where women ought to have a very limited role.

Criticisms of these movies are fine — they’re not perfect — but fanboys who argue that they’re “man-hating” in any way have no credibility. It’s just another example of men thinking gender equity is achieved when one or two women enter a cast of five dudes — an example that conforms to documented reality of media and fandoms for generations.

Fuck men children bitching about shit no one fucking cares about.

Die mad about it you little bitches.

Be aware that resent research has shown that the majority of the hate for the new Star Wars movies have been orchestrated and perpetuated by Russian troll factories.

I honestly would not be surprised.

Also, there’s been studies that have been shown that men feel that women “dominate” a conversation when they speak more than 30% of the conversation.

phaeton44:

clarrkey:

gaypeopletwitter:

Wow tea

but like, very specific and accurate tea 

Seriously, how can you look at her now and not go “Holy shit, I’m gay”

yurianimemangaworld:

Why can’t we get Yae and Chitose animated???